Well November’s gone by and still no one appears to have read the last few posts (or the counter’s not functioning) so there may not be anyone to wish a Merry Christmas to but I hope you all do anyway.
My last 6 months have been particularly disappointing in that my aviaries appear to have been sterilized! None of my birds have successfully bred since May! Almost nothing has nested, those that did nest had mainly clear eggs and any that did hatch died within a few days of hatching. I’ve also had some mysterious deaths that the UP veterinary hospital have attributed to idiopathic causes – possibly mal-absorption syndrome. I myself have come up with a hypothesis – poisoning! Just before I went away in June I put a potted plant in the aviary and noticed it brought an unwelcome guest – a large cane-toad. I was unable to catch it at the time and only managed to capture and remove it in October. These nocturnal animals are practically toxic and while I can’t find anything in the literature I believe that it must have shared the water during the night and gradually poisoned the aviary. Unfortunately I had all my finches in that aviary for 3 months and it is this one factor that possibly caused my sterility and lack of vigor. Even the stress of having such a large nocturnal animal in the cage wouldn’t have helped the birds. Since the removal of the offending animal I’ve had quite a few failed nests so I’m hoping that they can work the toxin out of their system otherwise the only solution is to dispose of the birds and start again.
Another disappointment was that the promised shipment of exotic finches from one of the Cartimar shops failed to materialize. I hope that these guys have more persistence next year.
In 2009 Cartimar still continued to hold some avicultural surprises even if they aren’t finches. I’m amazed and appalled to see variety of Palawan wildlife for sale. Vipers, civets, monkeys, squirrels, blue racquet-tails and blue-naped parrots, hill mynahs as well as other assorted treats owls, eagles, pitas, button & painted quail, munias (scaly breasted, white bellied, chestnut), flower peckers, orioles, white-eyes, local parrots (colisissi & Guaiabero) and pigeons (bleeding hearts, zebra, and about 3 types of fruit doves). Lets not forget the Indonesian stuff – well I only saw pig-nosed turtles and chattering lorries this year but I did see the progeny of some ornate lorikeets and I’m sure their parent’s weren’t exactly legal. I can’t believe that the young caiman and salt-water crocodiles are legitimate either. I might tut-tut about such things but I was also tempted by some green-faced parrot-finches but they would only sell as lot at P3000 each and I couldn’t afford that but somebody else could!
I hope to resupply myself with viable seed for sprouting while in Australia over Christmas as most of the seed here is dead. I will drool over the exotics available there and come back hopefully to my aviaries full of young.
Merry Christmas and a finchful 2010.



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MERRY XMAS FINCH ENTHUSIASTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im sad to what happened to your aviary,im also having the same problem with mine.only have 4 youngs from my zebras since june 2009.i think its the quality of seed supply were buying thats causing the problem because its the only common denominator .almost all the breeders here from bulacan is experiencing the same problem.
just curious,may i know whose selling the parrot finches
and can i get the contact no.?
you can contact me on my new cp no.
09175946905
Hi,
I read your posts. I appreciate what you are sharing to us.
Keep up the good work.
I always read and enjoy your posts, I think the counter isn’t working. I live in the U.S. and aviculture is my hobby. I raise pheasants and the Palawan pecock pheasant is the most beautiful pheasant I have. At one time I had hoped to retire in the Philippines, but it is just too expensive there now. Anyway, I think your main problem is with the seed. If it won’t sprout, then it is only good as a source of carbohydrate the vitamins are mostly gone. Maybe some eggfood and vitamins in the water would help. Good Luck
Just updating the post before I leave. Thanks to the readers that responded – it looks like the counter is dead and Finchme is still being read. My birds are going down to nest so hopefully the 21 clear & dead eggs I discarded last weekend are positive signs of fertile eggs to come. At the momnt I’ve got diamond firetails and cutthroats on eggs and for the first-time Java sparrows. Unlike the birds in the other aviaries the Java’s were never confined with the toad in the main aviary so I’ve high hopes for testing my theory that toad toxin sterilized the exposed birds.
merry x’mas sa lahat ng breeder!
tanong ko lang kung saan makabibili ng magandang birdseed kasi ang problema ko rin ay walang napipisa sa mga itlog ng mga finches ko kung meron man ay namamatay after a week.
I have also the same problem in my finches they usually ends in dead eggs. can you give me advise?
dead in shell syndrome is usually caused by poor nutrition.proper breeding prep can prevent this.
sir edwin anong finches alaga mo ngayon?
Hi sir benji,thanks, mga zebra finches lang saka black cheek na zebra finches and society finches lang ang alaga ko.
I give them naman boiled egg twice a week saka nag-gagawa rin ako ng sprouted seed and I give them petsay. ano ba ang tamang prep bago mag breed? di kaya nakasama yung vitamins everyday? ano ba magandang vitamins sa kanila? at hanggang ilang taon ba ang finches para mangitlog di kaya matanda na yung iba kong finches?
pasensya na po sa maraming kung tanong.
sir benji ok daw ang sprouted seed,yung bang toge e pwede rin bang ipakain sa mga finches?
I’ve been enjoying the articles too. Please keep them coming…
Merry Christmas buddy! count me in as a finch addict hooked to your site =)
My finches has laid infertile eggs again, how can i get rid of this problem?
since Aug there are no egg hatched other says they need proper nutritions…but i give them boiled eggs,petsay and sprouted seed.
can you give me advise
bro edwin , change pairing..
thanks kurt…
atlast!! my finches hatches two!!! after a months!!!
but I’m not sure kun mabubuhay ba nila yun? baka abandonahin nanaman…
bat sa kin 3 klase lang ng birds seed ang pinapatuka ko, hindi kaya magkapatid ang zebra mo, ako bihira lang ako magbigay ng vitamins kung kinakailangan lang, nagbibibgay lang ako ng vitamins pag may inakay ako
hi jj,sigurado ko hindi sila mag kapatid dahil magkaiba sila ng pinanggalingan…tulad ng inaasahan ko namatay din mga inakay nila at yung black cheek ko apat ang itlog mukhang tulad din ng dati infertile egg din yung apat na yun.
jj anong vitamins na binibigay mo sa mga finches mo? sa ka anung klaseng mga bird seed?
red at white millet, canary seeds, kuya naka ilang clutch na ang sayo, kasi baka ma-egg-bound yan gaya ng sa kin,pakatpos ma-egg-bound namatay ang inahin ko, sabi kasi ng ninong ko sa isang row 3-4 clutch lang pati depende sa dami ng pinisa,
mula pa Aug isang beses palang nakapisa at ngayun nakapisa ulit pero namatay din.mga one week lang mangingitlog ulit sila at mamimisa pero kadalasan infertile egg…hindi napipisa.
siguro kailangan ibukod ko muna babae sa lalake ng isang buwan…thanks jj
gud day..
@jj sir as in 3 klase lng ng bird seed patuka mo ok n wla nang iba?,pareho kc kmi ng case ni edwin dti lgi rin infertile ang egg,anu kya kulang s diet nla?tpos ngayun tumigil n cla clutch,..location mo pla jj?
pasenya na hindi ko pa kasi nararanasan ang infertile egg,
@edwin,maganda cguro magpalit ka na ng ibang mutation
@phi,3klase lang ung patuka ko, 1/2white millet,1/2canary seed, 1/8 red millet..naglalagay lng ako ng mineral grit pra sa itlog,Cavite, Tagaytay, ikaw kuya?
@jj anung patuka yan pra s finches?anung finches b mga alaga mo sir?veggies nagbbgay krin b?anung mineral grit gmit mo?pangasinan ako blak ko sna magplit ng pair bka kc magkpatid nbili ko,s isang breeder lng kc gling ibon ko..anu p mga binibgay mo s mga ibon mo?diet?vitamins?bka kc kulang lng ako s patuka…
@jj pinag hiwalay ko na lang yung mga pares ko ibibili ko na lang sila ng mga bagong kapares.ok lang ba yun?
un lng kasi ung pnapatuja ko s knila…(CR/CFW,BC/BB pair),W,BC,OB/BB, at isang pair ng shaft tail…minsan ngbbgay ko ng veg…dinurog n egg shell may kasmang oyster shell at konting buhangin,pat ngllagy din ako ng cuttle bone…boiled egg n may bread crumbs pag may inakay pat kahit minsan baka kasi gusto nila ng iba…
@jj panu mo cla pnpkain ng veggie panu mo gnagawa?yung oyster shell b mrami din nbbili s petshop ala kc ako mkita dto smin..may mga benta knb n finches?
@phi yung oyster(talaba) shell e mabibili mo sa palengke,pagkaluto mo nito tangalin mo yung laman tapos yun pinaka shell nun linisin mong mabuti tapos patuyuin mo pagnatuyo na dikdikin mong maigi at yun ang pakakain mo sa mga alaga mong ibon pwede mo ring haluan ng dinurog na shell ng itlog at buhangin.
@edwin thanks,how about veggies panu mo cla bnibigyan?tagasaan k pla edwin?
@phi yung veggies tulad ng petsay pinag hihiwalay ko yung mga dahon tapos binabanlawan ko ng tubig saka ko binibigay sa kanila…taga valenzuela ko
@edwin buong dahon b n binibgay mo?sensya kna ha dmi ko tanung baguhan lng kc ako,nagplit kc ako ng alaga dti mlaki ngayun try ko nman s maliit n ibon..s mga vitamins anu mga gamit mo?may mga pambenta knb s mga ibon mo?
@phi yung ibang breeder pinipiraso nila pero ako buong dahon ang nilalagay ko sila na ang tumutuka-tuka nun,binibigyan ko sila nung vitamins para sa ibon (angel drops)minsan sa isang linggo,wala pa ko pambenta kasi di naman sila makapisa ng maayos ngayun kasi ginu-gulo ng mga pusa e…nabubulabog sila.pero lahat ng alaga kong finches puro palahi ko na. ano ba dati alaga mong ibon…african lovebird ba? meron din ako nun kaya lang mukhang matanda na…bigay lang sakin isang beses lang nangitlog di naman napisa.
@edwin ganun b,yun lng b bgay mo n vitamins?san nmn nbibili yan,may mga kilala kb n breeder din ng mga finches?san mo nbili dati nyang sau?cguro magkkpid yung nbili ko kya ganun,alaga ko cockatiel dmi n nga e mgling kc mag alaga ng inakay yung breeder ko..
@ phi dapat pag bibili ka ng ibon wag sa iisang petshop lang para siguradong di magkapatid o kaya sa mga breeder ka bumili, sa bulacan maraming breeder ng finches at yung vitamins meron sa cartimar ibat-ibang klaseng vitamins,ako pag bumibile ko hindi isang pares isang piraso lang tapos mga ilang weeks lang punta naman ako sa ibang lugar bili ulit ako isang piraso para sigurado.meron din ako isang cockatiel pero mas nagamay ko finches kaya dinispatya ko na mga african ko saka yung cockatiel
@edwin tama nga gamayan lng cguro,cockatiel mdali lng ibreed..ala kc ako kilala n breeder e,mlamang magkpatid cguro nbili ko..patuka mo mraming klase b?slamat bro sna mrami p me matutunan sau,pag may pambenta kn sna mkakuha me s mga ibon mo..
@ phi tatlong klase lang patuka ko white millet,canary seed saka red millet…minsan isang linggo pinakakain ko rin sila nilagang itlog….ginagayat ko tapos dinudurog ko pati shell,pinag hahalo ko saka ko binibigay sa mga ibon
@edwin yan b lhat binbigay mo s mga ibon mo o may iba pang sekreto,share mo n lhat edwin pra yun nlang sundan ko n routine..try ko s mga ibon ko bka ngayun mangitlog n cla,may alaga krin b n gouldian?slamat ulit..
@phi lahat yan binibigay ko sa mga ibon ko kun paano mo ina-alagaan yung mga cockatiel mo ganun din ang sa finches,me mga ugali nga lang silang magka iba. yung gouldian…gusto ko nga ring mag alaga nun kaya lang sabi mahirap daw i breed yun
kaya me kamahalan.
@edwin yung oyster shell b kailangan n iluto p yun bgo durugin?ganun b mas mhirap pla gouldian iba din b diet nung mga yun?
masmaganda pakuluan mo o kaya i microwave mo para walang bacteria saka mo durugin, kasi nabasa ko sa isang website tungkol sa gouldian,parehas din ng diet nun ibang finches pero may ugali silang nag aabando ng mga inakay saka mapili sila sa mga nest nila at ang pagkakaiba nila hindi sila natutulog sa pugad nila, at kung namimisa yun lang hen ang natutulog sa loob ng pugad yung lalake nakaabang lang sa labas, papasok lang yun lalake pag lumabas yun hen para kumain.
db may nbibili din n oyster shell s mga petshop..
baka cuttlebone yun sinasabi mo yung pute na pahaba, pero tanong ka rin baka meron
ang alam ko sir mayrun e try mo tanung pag ngawi k s cartimar durog n yun..cuttlebone yung back ng pusit..may mga post kb pic ng mga ibon mo?
@phi ilang pares ba finches mo? kanina nakabili ko sa petshop vitamins e angel drops,mahusay din, yun ang gamit ko ng nagsisimula ako,nakakapisa ako nun saka nakabubuhay ng mga inakay…kaya lang nung magpalit ako ng vitamins sinubukan ko yun sa manok e nagloko na pangingitlog nila kaya kanina naisip ko bumalik na lang sa angel drops,subukan mo baka magamay din ng mga finches mo.ano ba ginagamit mong vitamins nun sa mga cockatiel mo?
panimula ko isang pares lng s zebra at goulds tpos 2 pares ntira s society ko nmtay kc yung dlawa dati tingin ko nbasagan ng itlog s loob,fertivet drops gmit ko ok nman…peru try ko nyang gamit mo angel drops saan nbibili yan mayrun b s mga poultry supply?
bro may gouldian ka pala,nag itlog na ba yun…dba mahirap alagaan yun… yung angel drops sa petshop ko lang nabibile…nakapag papisa ka na ba? kahit alin sa mga finches mo?
wla p nga eh tumigil n nga cla nun kya tinamad me kulang kc ako knowledge s finch,tsaka dati tinatapon yung egg,peru try ko ulit ngayun kya nga naghhnap me ng mabilhan..
bro phi malayo ka kasi e…dito sa recto aranque market marami finches saka sa cartimar pasay.pero kun me oras ka punta ka aranque o sa cartimar.
kya nga e hindi ko nga rin alam kung saan yang mga petshop n yan,ilan nb alaga mo pdami u nlang tpos sau nlang me kuha..anung mutation b mayrun sau?
meron ako isang pares na black cheek saka society finches,namataay nga yung pinaka inahin ko ng society natira puro lalaki saka yung pinaka tatay, saka isang pares na silver back na zebra.balak ko mga feb bili ako ng mga ilang pares pa
magkano ang price ng phaeo at ng black cheek black breast
cge edwin pdami k tapos sau nlang ako kuha para may discount..hehe
mga bro,may babae akong finches…itlog lang sya ng itlog pero di sya namimisa,may one year na sakin to ilang beses ko nang pinalitan ng kapares to pero ganun parin,ano ba dapat gawin para matuto syang mamisa?
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