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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackHi, im new in taking care of zebra finch and i’m having a problem as of now…. >___
here is the story.When I first bought them they are so sweet and cuddly with each other,specially after they built their nest..but then the female died.And so we decided to buy 3 other finches..so there could be 2 pairs of them,we even bought new big cage for them, so I didnt think there would be a problem for territorial thingie…But when I put them all in the same cage my “widower” decided to chase everybody especially the male one. as of now I placed a divider in the cage so he’s all alone yet again on the other side… what am I supposed to do so he would get along with others? T___T I feel like he only wants the first one who passed away to be his mate… T___T
What you so is take the 2 hens and put them in the cage of the widower. Have it pick a new partner then take the remaining one to be with your other cock. An agressive zebra could mean that it wants to mate already and doesn’t want the distraction of the other male.
thanks!!! I have another question… although its kind of stupid for you guys who have experience already.. XDDD
`. If you decided to place the finches indoor… should you take them out in the morning for direct sunlight?? wont it bother them and have problem being familiar with their surrounding?
2. And is it okay at night to leave them without light? Or should I provide them one??
Thanks in advance~!!! Ü
oh btw I followed what you said. after numerous of chasing, he decided to be with the white one… which is from the day I bought it (3rd day as of now) its feathers are all stood up and I’m thinking its going to die sooner or later… T___T
He picked someone who’s going to die yet again. what the heck… but I think she’s a little bit ok now.. I gave her err… ‘Neozep’. its a local medicine for human. hahaha XDD I think its quite effective since her feathers are quite better compared yesterday.. XDDDD
hi eniehs,
if you can, provide them a cage which will 1) have a little sunlight during the day(usually the morning) so that they’ll get the energy and vitamins they need from the sun like most animals do (that includes us humans) and 2) is away from any artificial light in the evening so that they can get their much deserved rest after bouncing inside their cage all day long. I myself find this difficult to accomplish so the alternative is do 1) and just procure a tarpaulin with which you can cover their cage at night. The tarpaulin can act as shield to cold wind drafts as well.
Sunlight is definitely good for your birds but if they’re somewhere where they don’t get sunlight, giving them vitamins with vitamin D should be ok. I’ve had pairs that didn’t get sunlight at all but they were still prolific and healthy.
There’s also this guide that states that giving your birds 16 hours of “light” will make them breed better. I followed this rule before but i had more success breeding them by not following this.
If you have a sick bird, you have to separate it from the others until it gets well.
Thanks for the answers… I’ll try the tarpaulin thingie… I’ll just get them inside if there is a storm or something like Milenyo.. @__@;; I couldn’t find some vitamin D in the pet shop nearby and I dont know how to commute to Cartimar to find one hahahahah. XDDD
anyweiz.. I have another question.. haha. Really sorry for so many question.. I wanted to experience seeing eggs inside the nest so I’m trying my best. T___T you see, I have a talent in making a pet pass away. wawawawawa T___T
Question:
1. About the mate thingie.. as I said before, my “widower” chose the white one… but for some reason I think the white one dont like him… my widower sleeps outside their nest. He sleeps on a perch… compared to my other pair who sleeps together inside their nest… T__T I feel pity for him, the white one is not as affectionate as the 1st mate he had.. O__o;; So is it a bad thing or I should let it be? Should I do something or just let them whatever they want?? I want them to have babies T____T XDDD
2. Should I place a divider between the two pairs?? Seonadancing said that when a male wants to mate he doesn’t like distraction from the other male…So I’m guessing I should just place a divider between them… should I?? numerous time my widower would chase the other pair,(he doesn’t chase the white one that’s how I saw he chose her to be his mate. XD) but only for a moment unlike before…
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So yeah. that’s it for now. Sorry for tons of nutshell questions… T___T I just hate to see another dead finch in my cage. T___T
Hi! Regarding sunlight, All my birds all keep indoors as a substitutre for sunlight, you may use ultraviolet light (for fish). But I think it would be much better for them to be exposed to a little sunlight. It is important to note that for zebras and gouldians, the amount of sunlight that they are exposed to shall be limited to 8 hours a day only. For canaries, it is about 12 hours. This is a requiremnt for them to breed well.
Regarding your birds chasing each other, I have similar experiences also, What I can suggest is that the female should also be matured enough( 6 to 8 months) ready to breed before you pair her up with the male. Actually, there are some super aggressive finches that I know. and I dont keep them anyway in my aviary.
Im baacckk…. O_o;; XDDD
1. is it really possible that the finch I had got its first egg within 18 days?? O__o maybe its already pregnant when I got it neh?? it layed 2 eggs… @__@
2. I found out in the morning the other egg fell from the nest.its already broken T___T I have read in some sites that some finch really push their egg off the nest…is there some ways to avoid it?? thanks in advance!!!
bumping…
they broke their second egg…
@___@
what am I supposed to do with them… why are they doing that? abortion…? -____-;;;
hi eniehs,
i think breeding your zebra will be a great challenge to you. it seems that you are having a hard time breeding it. Here’s some tip, maybe you want to try this one. Try to feed them with eggs and vegetables (of course you have to change it everyday). Give them also calciums aside from vitamins. How many pairs of zebras you have right now? If you have 2 pairs try to exchange their partners. But be sure to it that they have atleast the same age. Friendly advise, as much as possible please buy your birds sa mga breeders, and they will also help you breeding your birds.
eniehs, as per warlock info benjie is the best zebra breeder. u can contact him in this no. (0920)9072305.
Zebras throw their eggs because of some of these reasons.
1. You keep on bothering them, or something is bothering them like a rat or roach.
2. First clutch.
3. 3rd straight clutch.
4. Lack of nesting material.
I used to count the number of eggs that were thrown away by my zebras but i stopped counting when the number went beyond 100.
wag ka maniwala ke warlock ,nagbibiro lang yun……he he
pero kung me maitutulong ako ,mag text ka lang.i’ll try my best.
seona,
musta na yug cfw?
just text me kung pwede na bro.
eniehs, i told you, expert breeders like sir benjie will always extend their helping hands.
sir benjie, warlock never lies….he he he
@eniehs, you got a great advice from seona and wildbirds. speaking from experience, your zebras haven’t settled yet(probably due to several reasons), and this is causing them to throw away, and even eat, their own eggs. find out what’s bothering them and soon they’ll start raising a family.
@sir benji, malupit ang reputation nyo ah. big time breeders na ang pumupuri sa inyo. hehe.
@ms. ladybird, you haven’t replied on my e-mail yet. iintayin ko po.
great week everyone!
@wildbirds
you mean as in ordinary chicken egg? yun ba
yung nabsa ko na boiled egg sa ibang sites?
buong egg ba?XD may nabasa kase ako na egg shell
lang daw… >________________
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I feed them mineral grits ska yung cuttlebone for calcium din ata un? haha. I’m trying to follow kurt_ang’s diet for his finch dun sa isang topic dito, kaso so far d ko pa nabibili yung vitamins so ung birdamin ekek pa lang yung binibigay ko.. >_____________
and I went to cartimar last week paikot ikot ako bat danun, wlang japanese millet cla lahat..
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I have 4 of them, same cage? ok lang ba yun? They switched mates on their own… last week ko lang napansin…
@seona
the only time I bother them is when I change their water,ska give them fresh water for bathing every morning, ska when I clean up their poopoos… >_____
napuputol po yung post ko, sorry for 3ple posting…
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I clean them every 2days-3days… bad ba un…?
@ladybird
Thanks for the number, I’ll contact him, kaso makulet ako bka mainis? XD
@sir benji
ok lang po? bka makulitan kau saken.
@Gsas
The other female decided to change mate as I saw it last week, it wants the other male so she keeps chasing the other female… that’s one of the reasons I could think of that bothered them…
@all
thanks for infos, so far all of your answers was really a big help for a newbie like me… thanks a bunch talaga
eniehs, with your permission can i have your email add or ym add or your cell #.
gsas, di mo pa rin pala nalilimutan yun he he he. i’m on field for almost a month and now lang uli ako nag open ng email ko. cge i’ll email you as soon as i finish my reports.
@eniehs
ibig siguro sabihin nun,whote chicken egg(grated) including the shell(ground).yung iba ima micro wave pa yung shell para sure na walang salmonella.
i-separate mo rin yung nangbu bully na female at yung type nyang cock sa iyong flock.
Eniehs, you just answered your own question. You shouldn’t give baths to your zebras if they have eggs. For one thing, they will leave their eggs because they love taking baths and when they return to sit on the eggs, the water from their feathers will sip into their eggs, thus making it clear. Napansin ko din na zebras know when their eggs are clear, tinatapon talaga nila. Separate the pairs too. Japanese Millet madami sa Progressive Poultry sa Edsa Project 7. Don’t clean the cage too much, napansin ko din na zebras like other animals are teritorial and their poop and pee leaves a scent that is distinct to them. Kaya nga when you replace their nest after a clutch it will take some time for them to get accustomed to the new nest again.
Benjie, sabihan kita, lumabas na yun inakay sa nest but masyado pang maliit. in another 2 weeks siguro. Thanks.
@seona
bro ano nangyari sa ppc,nagexpire daw?
wala tuloy ako balita sa eb,malapit na yun right?
me mga tips din na hayaang maligo yung finch 2 days before hatch date para ma moisten ang eggs at di mahirapan ang chicks lumabas.di ko pa na try pero mukang totoo kasi sa experience ko me mga cases na nadededong chick kasi di nakalabas ng shell.
mukhang down nga ang ppf ah.. what happened kaya?
@eniehs, here’s what i do. after boiling the egg, i separate the shell, put it in a plastic bag or something, and pound it to bits by a hammer(hehe, nde naman masydong galit.) then i take the egg and grate it against a regular cheese grater. after which, hinahalo ko sila and i put it in a small tupperware so that i can store it sa ref. para di mapanis. pwede mo rin itong haluan ng vitamins, grated carrots and other veggies. yung 1 egg, enough na sya for two pairs of zebras for a week. sobra pa. credits to Mr. Emer for this technique, who by the way will be our next FinchMe featured breeder (gouldians expert), hopefully next week.
@ladybird of cavite, sige po. i’ll wait for your reply.
@everyone, gandang umaga!
@ladybird
cavite ka po?cavite po din kase meh.. hehe
sure po, it will be a great help kase talagang wala ako alam sa ganito.. XD
0921-3911487
ym: l_ayame
@gsas
thanks for for info~! gawin ko din po cya!
@seonadancing
waaaa yun ba yun? D pala pde ligo yun..aw… I really dont have any idea. thanks po talaga!!!
sayang ung 100++ na mababasag if ever, parang pde na yun panglecheflan… hehehe.
thanks again to everyone who responded. Ü
benjie, i guess yun babasain yun eggs 2 days before hatch may sense din, medyo mahirap lang mag track ng timeframe and kung cacandle mo naman yun itlog baka ma istorbo naman yun magulang.
Up naman both PP and PPF ah.
hi there.
I would just like to thank this site for all the infos you shared with me,finally I got what I wished for.. XD
http://fc.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2008/026/0/8/zebra_finch_babies_by_f_lyts.jpg
they came out of their nest yesterday morning. XD
questions again: XDDD
1. Do I have to separate their cage from their parents? and if I have to, when can I do that?
2. Do they need some other kind of diet or pretty much the same like the diet of their parents: the diet Ive been using is the one posted by kurt_ang in finch health and diet section.
thanks in advance~!
Hi Enieh!
1. Do I have to separate their cage from their parents? and if I have to, when can I do that?
Answer: Yes! When You notice that the babies will eat on their own, then you must separate the babies already. Usually the parents will start laying eggs already.
2. Do they need some other kind of diet or pretty much the same like the diet of their parents: the diet Ive been using is the one posted by kurt_ang in finch health and diet section.
Answer: Same, the moment theylearn to eat on their own.
P.S>. What’s the mutation of the finch in the pic? It looks great?..
Congrats eniehs, sana maparami mo sila.
sir gsas, bat di na po kayo sumagot sa txt ko?
wildbirds, were can i contact u?
puwede bangsumali sa usapan nyo
hi ms. ladybird! sorry po.. i left my phone yesterday sa bahay.
@wildbirds, do you mind introducing yourself here at FinchMe? I would very much like to know about you.
sure, just call me wildbirds. i grew up at malolos, bulacan but right now im toronto, canada. my family migrate here last oct. 2007. im 35 yrs old and a mechanical engineer. before i left phils. i breed finches, gouldians to be specific. kung di lang kami aalis ng pinas im planning to breed canary. the reason why i like you to feature ladybird in finchme kase ngayon lang ako nakakilala ng girl na mahilig din mag breed.
ladybird, im sorry i don’t have any contact # for now. i’ll inform you thru this site kung san ako puwedeng macontact.
sir gsas, ok na po ba ang pagpapakilala ko? wala na po kase akong masabi pa about myself. sasagutin ko na lang po kung ano ang itatanong ninyo.
finchme, thanks for accommodating me. para na rin akong nag aalaga ng gouldians thru this site.
more power….
hello sir wildbirds, pareho po pla tyong engineer. syang sna bgo kyo ngmigrate s canada ngmit tyo nila warlock. bka my ym add po kyo pra mgchat tyo minsan.
regarding po dun s request nyo n mging featured breeder ako d2 sa finchme pra mkilala nyo ako, wla po akng “K” unlike warlock expert tlga cya s canary. warlock is da best breeder of canary d2 s pinas. mrmi rin po cgurong breeder n girl. sir, question and answer nlng po tyo kng ano po ang gusto nyong mlman saken.
sir gsas, wat do u think, ano ang issgot ko syo hehehe…. pag-usapan ntin yan over a cup of coffee or coffee(its ur choice)hehehe.
sir toto, welcome po kyo sumali s usapan nmin.
si warlock nga ang expert sa canary.. pero kayo po ang expert sa gouldian. kwnto pa lang ni warlock sa inyo ay bilib na kaagad ako. di naman ako mag-ooffer ng interview kung hindi ko think na may K po kayo.
sabihin nyo lang kung kelan kayo pwede..
talaga ladybird engineer ka rin… adamson grad ako, ikaw from what school, anong field mo? kelan kayo magkakape ni sir gsas? ok ka na ba na maging featured breeder? sige na pumayag ka na para naman my girl na rin makilala na breeder. can i get your ym add.
kapos na kase ako sa oras, gusto ko talagang makipagkita sa inyo ni sir warlock. gusto kong makita ang mga canary niya, siyempre pati yung mga breed mo pupuntahan ko rin.
agree ako sa sinabi mo na si sir warlock ang the best breeder ng canary dyan sa pinas. ang gaganda ng mga canary niya at alagang alaga.
sir warlock, pag nagbakasyon po ako uli ng pinas punta po ako sa aviary ninyo ha. di na po ako nakatawag sa inyo kase naging busy na po ako sa pag aayos ng mga papers ko.
sir gsas, good luck sa coffee date ninyo he he he…
@kurt
thanks for answering~!as much as i would like to answer kng anung mutation cla… @_@;; ang alam ko lang zebra finch cla hahaha. XD wla tlga akong idea about breeding kaya sobrang thankful ko sa site na to, dame ko nalaman, XD
@ladybird
thanks. sna nga dumami… pag marunung na ko sau ako aask kng anung mutation yung ok. hehe
ok! maybe it would be easier kung may YM kayo..add me up! cuttino_3 para mas mabilis..:D
hi im a newbie here and in taking care of zebra finch i bought a unidentified mutation of zfinch could you help me identify my zfinch?? where can i post the pixs and how?? it has a cheek patch and flank but it doesnt have the white spots in the flank is it a hen or a cock?? pls help me thank u very much and more power in finchme.
@shintaro, you can use Free Image Hosting just upload the pictures there and copy the link over here at finchme.
here’s the pix http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0ddd1c8eca.jpg
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0e7770feba.jpg
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0e86633085.jpg
im sori about the quality of the pixs cellphone lang po ginamit ko. sana may makasagot po ng tanong ko. thank you!!
It’s a BF Isabel cock.
hi po. confirm ko lang kng lalake dn to. kta ko kase ung inupload ni shintaro kamuka… haha kala ko nung una babae eh… XD
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9610/finchierz1.jpg
ska ask ko lang po kng may nlalagay p kau sa cage ng hiniwalay na na nestlngs… yung marunung n kumaen magisa. perch lang b tlga 2lugan nla…? wawa nmn eh.. haha. prang wlang shelter.. XD pag nlagyan ko nmn pugad ggwa agad baby… @__@
cock din yan! isabel cock po..
@jave
thanks!!! naaliw naman aq, layu ng itsura nito sa parents nya. hahah XDD tenkyu tenkyu!
@Eniehs,
Ganda ng zebra mo. May deviantart account kaba? Para ma visit ko naman. Thanks
@rhino
ahahaha nakyutan nga dn ako kase iba kulay sa nanay ska tatay nya. sa 1st tymer like me syempre amazed n amazed ako. hahaha XDD
meron po me account sa deviantart kaso pambata eh…. hahaha pro anime nka upload dun… ahahah.. XDD
thank you jave.. unfortunately mejo nadali xa ng house rat mice? naputol un isa nyang paa. hangang ngaun un prin ang problem ko mga daga. mejo nauubos n kc un mga finch ko. ano po b mgandang pangpatay sakanila?? but not harmful to the birds.
ouch..ako nga wla pa nian as of now e..
in my case medyo nalessen ko ang prob sa mice. ang gamit kong cages sa finches ay plywood yung sides pti yung tray sa ilalim, yung frontage wires at yung flooring chicken wires. i make it a point na safe ang mga finches ko kc bukod sa mga mice, my isa pa akong kalaban SNAKE…
eniehs, kelan ka dadalaw sa bahay? ganda ng paanak mo ah. madami ka na ba paanak?
HELP!
I’m a new finch owner, gifted with a pair of molting gouldians. The male’s older and just finished his molt, while the female looks like it’s going to still be molting until a month or so.
The female is pooping light-yellowish stuff, not the same kind the male poops out. His is more “normal” with bits and pieces. Hers is very liquid. This morning I was alarmed when I replaced their food and water and just in time saw her poop–it was completely liquid!
What’s wrong and what should I be doing?
By the way, what are other indications of mites? I’m not particularly sure, but I have a suspicion that our birds have them. They seem to be “nanggi-gigil” when they scratch their bodies and their heads. And from a couple of days’ observation, the “preening” and the scratching has surely became more frequent.
I fell in love with these birds at first sight, and would love to keep them safe and healthy. Hope you guys can give me proper advice as to what to do, what to buy and where to go.
Thank you very much in advance!
I’m a little out of practice with sick birds as luckily I haven’t had too many problems yet. My only experience with mites are air-sack mites. They make the bird wheeze and sniffle but your problem sounds like lice. I’d go to a good veterinary practice (I use the clinic at UP Los Banos) to get advice. A malathion powder would be OK but it has to be formulated for birds as too much will kill it. As for the diarrhoea there are many causes and usually by the time something is cultured the bird has died so getting treatment on a best guess from the vet will be your best bet. Make sure that she stays warm and has access to food and water. A broad spectrum antibiotic will work for some protozoal and bacterial infections but you do need to go to the vet. Sometimes even worms will cause diarrhoea and these are easy to see if you have access to a microscope. Good luck
Greg
hello glomor, welcome to the finches family…. im sure you will enjoy breeding gouldians…
i agree with you, talagang nakaka in-love ang mga gouldians, challenging ang pagbebreed ng mag ito. at walang kasing ligaya pag naibreed mo na sila.
talagang dumarating ang mga ganyan problem sa gouldian. patience ang kelangan mo. hope i can help you.
bata pa ba yung gouldian mo? if yes, talagang mag momoult sila. kadalasan march to april nagsisimula na sila maglugon til may. ang ginagawa ko pag alanganin na month at naglulugon pinapainum ko ng nekton e.
try mong painumin sila ng antibiotic (vetracin gold ang ginagamit ko) mix it using distilled or purified water for 3 consecutive days, tignan mo kung mag iimprove sila.
para sa air sack mites, ibomec ang ginagamit ko. ipinapahid ko ito sa dibdib nila. minsan ipinapatak ko sa ilon.
nakakalampas din naman ako sa mga ganitong problema sa ganitong paraan.
i suggest sa mga breeders ka bumili ng mga gouldians para malaman mo ang line or origin nung ibon plus they will give you good quality ng ibon. expert breeders will help you in breeding your finches.
happy gouldian breeding….
Thanks Greg and Ladybird for all your advice. I will try to consult a vet as soon as possible regarding our gouldians.
Our pair eats and sleeps well naman. The only problems are the female’s watery stool and their scratching. (I was even tempted to call one of them “Itchy” instead. Hehehe.) They don’t look lethargic at all, so I hope they’ll do fine and won’t surprise me with anything bad.
Will post their development.
Thanks again!
sir glomor, paki check yung dumi nila kung ano kulay… kung mas madami yung white or mas madami yung green ibig sbihin nde balance yung foo intake nila, pag yung dumi buo naman at may kasamang maraming tubig, minsan urine lang yon, tgnan mo kung mabilis maubos yung water nila sa inuminan… pag talagang diarrhea, try mo pakainin ng charcoal… kasi mahirap mag rely sa antibiotic na nde naman talaga pang finches… baka ma overdose… sometimes ito rin ang dahilan ng sterility… try mo yung charcoal sir… tapos stop mo muna yung eggfood kung nagpapakain ka nito…makakatulong din yung oyster grit yung pino ihalo mo dun yung charcoal…kung talagang ayw gumaling dun ENESTEROL para safe…goodday pare… sana gumaling na yan hrap yata me sakit ang alaga nararanasan ko din yan…
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Who is running Finchme? Thanks for resurrecting it but there is some porn and other useless posts to remove o clean it up. You might also want ot alert the old users.
Greg
@ricky ,enestrol ba ay pang water retention?
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